palm

[Martin Srebotnjak]

http://hopf.math.nwu.edu/syncal/

This thing can sync iCal files with Palm's DateBook.
It is obviously a linux soft but it can probably be ported to other
platforms/OS and even Calendar, right?

This is my wish for this Christmas, dear Santa...

enjoy,
miles.

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[Martin Srebotnjak]

If that code isn't useful, I've found more code that converts palm dba
calendar file to ical at sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/palm2ical/

and for conversion from ical to dba one could use code or concept from
another sourceforge project:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jp-icalendar/

Of course, conduit support (as already implemented in mozilla, I think)
should be added to calendar, here is a brief explanation of conduits:
http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/docs/conduits/win/Intro_CondBasics.html

and here is some more info on dba file format
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3216/datebook_dat.htm

This should be enough for someone with coding abilities and owing a palm to
start coding, right? ;)

Happy new year to you all!

miles.

[Martin Srebotnjak]

there seems to already exist a solution for all Palm&unix Calendar users
http://hopf.math.nwu.edu/syncal/

miles.

[Mårten Svantesson]

Post by Martin Srebotnjak
there seems to already exist a solution for all Palm&unix Calendar users
http://hopf.math.nwu.edu/syncal/

Sure, but even if it would work (I have no information about that)
with the iCalendar-files from Mozilla Calendar it would be a bit
cumbersome to use without risking data loss. That is when you do run
SYNCAL you must be sure that you don't run Mozilla Calendar.

But with no other option some will probably find it useful. I must
admit that I'd rather use a calendar with a more convenient Palm
integration.

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Well, if its code would be used inside Calendar, the syncing would go off
while using Calendar...
There could be a mechanism, that would disable changing the on-disk stored
calendar file during syncing and that's it. I guess during syncing a syncing
window would pop-up and block the usage of main Calendar window.
It should then use the appropriate conduit...

What I suggested (or tried to suggest) is to integrate the concept of Syncal
with using or adapting as much of the already written code (as in Syncal) as
possible...

The problem is that PDA support in Calendar has no roadmap/strategy/concept
nor enthusiast programmers programming or maybe I am blind.

miles.

Post by Martin Srebotnjak
there seems to already exist a solution for all Palm&unix Calendar users
http://hopf.math.nwu.edu/syncal/

Sure, but even if it would work (I have no information about that)
with the iCalendar-files from Mozilla Calendar it would be a bit
cumbersome to use without risking data loss. That is when you do run
SYNCAL you must be sure that you don't run Mozilla Calendar.

But with no other option some will probably find it useful. I must
admit that I'd rather use a calendar with a more convenient Palm
integration.

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[Nagy Attila István]

Post by MÃ¥rten Svantesson

Post by Martin Srebotnjak
there seems to already exist a solution for all Palm&unix Calendar users
http://hopf.math.nwu.edu/syncal/

Sure, but even if it would work (I have no information about that)
with the iCalendar-files from Mozilla Calendar it would be a bit
cumbersome to use without risking data loss. That is when you do run
SYNCAL you must be sure that you don't run Mozilla Calendar.
But with no other option some will probably find it useful. I must
admit that I'd rather use a calendar with a more convenient Palm
integration.

Would it be possible to read/write the iCal file trough the Calendar?
This way it wouldn't risk any data loss, and there would be no need for
shutting down the calendar.

Anybody any ideas?

Tylla

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Sure, that is not a problem, unless the calendar is remotely stored on a
third location. And even then there could be a mechanism to check about
concurrent changes...
As far as I know, the iCal file is readable by Calendar.

miles.

"Nagy Attila István" <***@localhost>
wrote in message news:c0d58n$***@ripley.netscape.com...
Would it be possible to read/write the iCal file trough the Calendar?
This way it wouldn't risk any data loss, and there would be no need for
shutting down the calendar.

Anybody any ideas?

Tylla

[David A. Desrosiers]

Post by Martin Srebotnjak
there seems to already exist a solution for all Palm&unix Calendar users

ical is not iCalendar. They are vastly different.

'man 1 ical'

syncal works with ical, not iCalendar format.

[David A. Desrosiers]

Post by Martin Srebotnjak
This thing can sync iCal files with Palm's DateBook.

No, it cannot. ical is not iCal. man 1 ical.

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Post by David A. Desrosiers

Post by Martin Srebotnjak
This thing can sync iCal files with Palm's DateBook.

No, it cannot. ical is not iCal. man 1 ical.

yeah, I gor it. I am writing my own app to convert palm data to ical.

Post by David A. Desrosiers
man 1 ical.

what does that sentence mean?

miles.

[David A. Desrosiers]

Post by Martin Srebotnjak
yeah, I gor it. I am writing my own app to convert palm data to ical.

Are you collaborating with the 1/2 dozen others who are also
working on the same or similar projects? What platform are you targeting?
Are you converting the data stored on the Palm (.pdb) or on the desktop
(.dba)?

[Steve]

Post by Martin Srebotnjak

Post by David A. Desrosiers

Post by Martin Srebotnjak
This thing can sync iCal files with Palm's DateBook.

No, it cannot. ical is not iCal. man 1 ical.

yeah, I gor it. I am writing my own app to convert palm data to ical.

Post by David A. Desrosiers
man 1 ical.

what does that sentence mean?
miles.

Hi,

I found a conduit, that syncs PDA with an XML-File:
datebook-xml-conduit-v05.zip
(http://www.javaconduitmanager.org/downloads.htm)

This is a Perl-Script that syncs XML with ical:
evolution-sync.pl (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=7)
It syncs with an xml-file on a linux handheld, but maybe the code helps
someone with perl capabilities to alter the code to a XML2ICS and
ICS2XML converter (IMHO it's by far more easy to convert XML<->ICS than
dba<->Ics, all I found was a csv->dba with poor support of repeating events)

So we had a 3 step sync:
convert ics to xml
sync xml-desktop with handheld
convert xml to ics

that would be fine for me.

I think we should not forget the ToDo-Lists, that are part of the
calendar.ics, but not of datebook.dat

If I find time, I will try to work on a converter, but ...



Greetings,
Steve